5.14.18 Gwynn & Chris 4 PM: Some Are Calling the Warriors/Rockets Series the NBA Finals

Monday, May 14th

5.14.18 Gwynn & Chris 4 PM: Some Are Calling the Warriors/Rockets Series the NBA Finals

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I guess it. Chris hello Tony Gwynn junior winning Chris Jessie Adler was just. Tremendous that first hour phenomenal really enjoyed having him on and he's going to be back with seasonal while he just. Downstairs right now and green has a meeting with the media. Prior to every game down and dug out so just yet it goes down for that and then he'll come back and Telus would Andy Greene said Kenneth cynicism Oakland now now. She asked it to your name was on the show you can say sound another one in Europe you know. Can lead to can the can all reporters do me a favor. Chris what's that to me please stop asking. The best players on each team if they're worried after a game one loss that this. The question is does. I understand asking questions that need to be asked even if it's and question we've heard a thousand times I understand that but that does not one that needs to BS because. None of them are ever worried after game one loss there is no more and there's no first voters know best of three series that would you read only reason why a guy would be worried after game one loss. This guy even best of five series in the NBA no more. So once our game ones basically near their fill out games they basically tell you nothing about what the rest of the series is gonna gonna be. Sometimes they do I mean it's potential it's possible only on sweeps they show you that. Right it's possible that Boston found something yesterday against Cleveland and Cleveland will never be able to combat that. But I find that hard to believe and you're right everybody asked LeBron James after the game yesterday. Are you worried in LeBron James is like are you serious. Correct I mean come on and so LeBron James for heaven's sakes now Boston played a tremendous gain yesterday. We were completely wrong I think almost everybody was completely wrong except for Jeff Van Gundy who. If this was hilarious tone because I know you were do we make pick some used what we can really make picks but I think we both. Thought Cleveland was gonna win and Syria are good shy after the to put out like I said it you know there's no way LeBron gonna lose but when Boston opened the game with like a seventeen old run. And when that run was over Jeff Van Gundy said. You know I really wanted to say is that Boston's gonna win the series in five some getting it out and a cut cut cut cut a way it's too late you just got it out after the one and a seventeen no run. But his point was that Boston is a better and deeper team than Cleveland and I can't argue that they are a deeper team you know how I know that's for sure. Because I was stunned them might I guess is the first Boston game I've watched from the tip off to the into the game. But I thought Marcus Smart was the best player in the Celtics. And I said so many times because of all of the things that he does out on the floor passing rebounding defense. Etc. And then I realized he doesn't even start. For the Celtics he does seem to get into the game till like ten minutes had been played that's how deep the Celtics are and they showed yesterday because everyone on their team played well. The isn't it here's a thing about it and where were guilty of this you and I both were guilty of this because we've been on. The brand Stephen strained for justice series seasons says this show started yeah. We make the mistake. Of making it seem like he's dealing with a bunch of scrubs. And misfits. And they're out they're just kind of you know he's just put these guys together and just and to just magically moving them around on a strict. Listen. Danny Ainge has done a good job of knowing hiring Brad Stevens. But bringing in players that fit the type of system he wants to Iraq. The type the system that Brad Stevens can coach. And weather's Terry Gross here where it's. Where whether it's not spinning a first round one the many first round picks he has a go get somebody like Jimmy Butler. And instead going to get a marquee more risk out of free agency. Don't. The more I mean they use 56. Different do against LeBron James every single one of them held their own last night. Yeah marquee mores was the main one because obviously he had the the of the proved highly subjective. Comments that he made about. Being the best to LeBron and stopper other than quiet Lennar. And. Listen these guys are not scrubs I mean Marcus Marcus Smart was the third fourth fifth pick overall somewhere around there and Tatum was the third pick it Tatum was a third pick rouge there was a first round pick I mean these guys are not. Scrubs by any means and they don't have a marquee guy out there is two of them are hurt but. These guys can play. And what they'd what we've done is put it extra chip on their shoulder because I think all season long. Especially after Irene went down which was later in the season but it was a right after the all star Rick I believe. We pretty much made it seem like these guys all have a shot. And they that they're not good enough to to even be mentioned in some of these other team breath yet here we are after game one and in the conference finals. Where they just blew out a LeBron James led team. Yeah LeBron James was was real and lawful means fifteen point seven turnovers. There was a play in the game yesterday that I still can't believe happened. LeBron James was dribbling the ball and Marcus Smart went up and just took it away from yes I remember seeing and I heard what. Just take the ball away from LeBron James Marcus mark just took it away from and it was that kind of day for Boston. Al Horford was. Probably the best he's ever been he was eight for eight at one point he finished eight for ten hitting three point shots. Cleveland's gonna make an adjustment they're gonna but Tristan Thompson in the starting line up by bitching game two and try to slow down Al Horford. And Boston shot over 50% and Cleveland shot four for 26 from three's. Keep that in mind when game two stars because of those numbers get reversed they Cleveland's gonna blow out Boston in the next game and everyone's going to be thinking different. Here's why. Playing. Tristan Thompson. I think hurts them. It takes them away from being able to do what's Cleveland does best what do they do best they shoot the three. Better than anybody issued a well last night now but that's still their best ticket that's how they win most of their games because there one of the best three point shooting teams in league. You bring interest in Thompson. Now all of a sudden he's playing the five. And Europe playing a much bigger lineup than you would if Kevin Love is out there playing to five. And you can't stretch the floor I think that plays right into the celtics' it. Now the brawn yesterday did exactly wolf for those of us who've had a chance to watch details. Kobe Bryant his new one was on a bronze and and it was on it playing to playing the game exactly how he didn't. Basically drawing defenders to home because. He's gay guys back to the best he's back in and now he LeBron knows he can draw defenders that way but. The difference was Cleveland didn't hit go shots and that they had been hit so I wouldn't be surprised offensively if clapped the caps stay the same they may enter transit tops or not but I think the best thing is keep eleven there. And hope that they knock down shots and that's really the difference. In this blog and that's saying they would want but again would have been much closer. Four for what was it point 34 for 26 and they say they missed their first thirteen Emmys so you can't you can't hope if your Celtics that we can't continue to believe that they're gonna miss shots like this for a sincere. On second NB a series like a game one was let me ask you a quick question we got a couple minutes actually I'll let you answered after the break. If he were the Celtics right now and your play in the way you are yeah I mean look they're undefeated at home they just whipped Philadelphia. Dave they knocked out Milwaukee Dave blow out Cleveland. If tomorrow. And this can't happen but tomorrow somebody said. Were gonna give you Kyra Irving and Gordon Hayward and you can have them healthy. Would you take them right now if you were the Celtics or would you think that might mess up the chemistry. I tell me when we come back we'll take a quick time out I'm Chris sell out toward Edwards your your this is when and Chris. NATO's new home for Padres baseball 973 the fan. For seventeen. Tony Gwynn junior Chris LO winning Chris 973 the fans because he had possibly one of the best teases I've ever heard in my life. I feel back did you really I really the last five minutes and good question and I hate this hate to do that via this everywhere rumor time. Here's the question the Celtics are playing so well right now they're on such a rule everybody is just doing. You know everything fits together so perfectly right now. And I couldn't help but look over on the bench yesterday NC Kyra your living in Gordon Hayward sitting there aren't thinking to myself. I wonder if they were really healthy and available. How the world with the Celtics put them back. In the mix. And maybe they're better off the those guys aren't available right now the way they're playing what you thought. I would say I think that you will wait asked the first question was if I would take both of them back yeah. I would be hesitant to take Gordon Hayward that and pay only because he didn't play but what two minutes and that first game and didn't play the rest is season and I don't know how he would fit so he's never had a chance to get acclimated with I never whereas Tyree was I mean he was pushing that team along. For awhile and. But I Tyree came back Tony he has to now be the focal point of everything you're doing. He's got to score his 37 points which doesn't hurt the cause but all of a sudden this brilliant team game they're playing right now might change. This was lash I would agree with that but the one thing Tyree showed this year was that he could be point guard is that was good that was a scuttle about him being moving to. So the Boston without LeBron was. Can he be a real point guard 'cause. In Cleveland when LeBron mean that some some rest you to come out today and he does David Tyree may have led them all hold down the office for a little bit. We'll carry with carry did show as a Boston Celtic the issue was that he could do both he can be a score anything gay guys the ball and he can play off the ball. Which I don't think a lot of people knew he could do. Willingly and and he's been willing participant prior to that knee surgery in the pad so. I would take him and I don't think it with the Boston Celtics would miss a beat I think they would be. Even tougher to beat because now you got rosier coming off the dance. And he's and he's pound man I wrote seared off form and it's I mean I mean I really that I really like his game I really do you say you're gonna. He's taken on hold eleven I liked him when he was at citizens are at Louisville obviously at that he was a good player and I just love the way the Celtics are playing right now on both ends of the I can't believe Sony occasionally have given loves the Celtics right now. I know that's right it's against your attack against a religion because your Laker fan and people at the Laker. And another Laker fan hears you saying all these nice things about the so I overdo my math you worked your car to weigh out your Laker thing. But you know the opening tip yesterday. I mean again they tipped the ball off the ball went into the hands of Jalen brown right at half court. And he just took it and went right out and made a lay up it was two to nothing. Four seconds into the game. And I noted that can never decide a basketball game but it just showed me right up about the the Celtics were ready to go. And they weren't scared and they weren't going to be intimidated. And everyone on their team is playing so well right now it's gonna take something strange to happen. To kind of twisted around but I do caution everybody that NBA playoff series often. We tend to do. Overreact we just said it has won the game we do and so we see one game and a Celtics looked phenomenal and clean looks terrible. And we say well. Maybe this matchup wants and may be LeBron is tired this time I know he's finally tired bit you know what game two I think it's going to be a completely different animal. And we'll see if Boston can win on a night when Cleveland's gonna play a whole lot better than they did yesterday. Yeah Boston basic that was equivalent of a heavyweight match in Boston got off the first couple punches. And never looked back right now we're gonna seeing game to a vacant take a punch because Cleveland gonna come with some early in. We we've seen the brunt come out very irritated and score 41 of the first 23 point so don't wasn't a game two it was it can't get busy day too against Indiana they lost the first game he does. Totally took over game two but before we get as it is used in gold state matchup I will say this I watched that interview that Rachel Nichols didn't. By which he's one of my favorites that that handles basketball right she interviewed Jalen brown tape down. I can't remember the third fourth guy was but. They just didn't seem like they had just they had zero fear. In them at all as a pertained to LeBron in those cats they just have a different swagger about him right now that. I think they believe so much in themselves that. It doesn't matter what happens they're going to be there to the very at this get this this series is going seven and I think it's a coin flip who wins and honestly. I give it goes seven I think the Celtics win because the leopard console takeover in the final game of crossing guard and neighbor never delivered a Celtics lose at this thing. What is the last time a Celtics lost a game seven and home. I don't know that they're never lost one and on but. It's in his I'm glad that Boston took game one because now I know we have a series and this is what we talked about last week I just want this to be a serious. And it's going to be a series now just like Houston Golden State which finally starts and like an hour and a half by the way people are calling this the finals right. Yes and that's a mistake that's a big mistake because you're leave and LeBron out of the finals and you're leaving Brad Stevens and you leave this Boston team out. And it right now Boston's plan at such a high level. I guarantee Golden State Houston don't want it to be called the final knelt there because they realize they have too much to worry about right now with one another one another out. But they make we we brought this up last week. This is the marquee semifinal there's no question Golden State uses the Marti Boston and Cleveland is is is on the undercard. But a lot of times the team that wins that undercard. Ends up beaten the marquee team in the finals because the marquee team had to. Exert so much energy to get past this semi final and whoever wins this between Golden State in Houston. Is gonna have to work force yeah I think that's true except in basketball most of I have to go to those those those. The stars of ways and we talked about as for the stars and basketball have so much more influence on. How a series and how in game goes. If if you are truly and it odd times. When we do and there's underdogs in basketball they're not. Truly underdogs I mean it's just so pleased when I know everybody would think gold status is is the team to beat or Houston would be that seem to be but. That we must and has proven enough throughout the course a season ending is playoff. That they are quality of Bob played BR quality no one of the best teams in the league right now and that's without their two superstar so. That being said. There's no doubt about it that debt Q standing Golden State. This a marquee matchup and I. There's requests about this who do you think as the best backcourt it at first at bat that was an easy question but he start thinking about everything as best backcourt between Houston. Single state. Well you've got James Harden and Chris Paul on one side which seems like that backcourt could lose to anybody right. And got stuff occurring Klay Thompson on the other side and I don't think that backcourt could lose. It so that's a really so so so so you really you you can call to push right it's a push except for the fact and I'm not a Chris Paul fans all take the guys OK leave aside that you don't like. Chris Paul the fact that we're just say I say I meant this. Would you say is it to say it's a place right time. The factor then becomes to me for court. And I think KD it definitely is still doesn't have any say they don't they don't have them move the dog that Kevin Durant is toss goes and cycling capella. He's not given that I know that's when he pleaded with the caveat on there are changed they just don't have somebody like that like you can offset let's say. Harden and Paul basically cross out. They cross each other out they crossed at Klay Thompson and step curry out but. There's no my on the Houston side that can cross out. Kevin Durant. This is the finals MVP we're talking about so this is where I think he's gonna start to separate himself again. As he did last year in the playoffs. Golden State in what 45. Comes days Armisen sixth you're gonna give Houston two game yes. I think there is still going to be good series I just don't think they have an answer for Cady. I think Houston this is a silly comment because I can go back on it changed my mind later and sound OK but I think Houston's got a win tonight. I think Golden State already thinks they're gonna win the series. I think Houston isn't quite sure whether or not they can win the series. So to me they need the confidence of winning tonight to let them know hey we can beat this teams in this situation and I know that you seem to be given regular season are. But does used to know they can beat him in a playoff. And that's why game one. You you you said earlier game one's your little overrated tonight it's not because you're right it's got to win to get that confidence otherwise it could be a sweet. I am a 100% agree with that and I agree with that mainly because Houston pardon going out to get Chris thought was because they want it. Home court advantage so you worked so hard to you know corn ranch and you lose it in the game in game one I think that would be mentally. Destructive in my then eat it might be all right we'll find out used an Golden State to finally get that series underway tonight. At 6 o'clock we're headed towards a Padre pregame Jesse Adler will rejoin us when he gets back from downstairs with Andy Green. Saw a whole lot more to come Randy Jones will be on the program Jenny caviar. The groundbreaking. Female broadcaster for the Colorado Rockies will be on the program as well. As that we continued toward 6 o'clock I am Chris LO IM Tony Gwynn junior Quentin Chris today sandy was only FM sports station 973 the fan. And agreements Hussein a whole lot of stuff tonight. Yeah sometimes Andy. Doesn't come out and I think sometimes that's the other voice yeah it's like 1050 ms. play area to get baseball stuff to worry about his Tennessee we're back with us because. God knows we need him I mean it's Chris Allen Tony Gwynn were good good word we're just that much better when Jesse's here and he's been with us on the programs like have retiree and in San Haywood back like Chapman Tyree back aren't you'll take them back I look if he was healthy the Celtics would put him and why it rental equipment it's kind of a stupid question and a lot of ways. But as I was Watson again yesterday it just dawned on me might blossom is playing so well right now. That you know you would wanna Max yeah you're right you're right you know it's funny is there at the one segment a basketball. That I don't that I always fast forward through. Is this stupid. Interview with the coach at the end of the quarter thing I just think that's the biggest waste time you talk about stupid questions. And no information the coaches give out. Except yesterday when they had Brad Stevens I listened to him of course because I thought he might see something in southern no need to fast forward you know and popped as most of and pops are always funny guys this is you know he might scare up a person that Leona. And a person interview on its just scared that. And they know going into an LA anticipating its own occasionally feel like it's flip the script on you. And like as the actually acts answer some questions and they are don't even have a follow usually because they're that way. Don't they use it and he's given it yet but I think interviews with coaches as they run off the field at half time. Managers during the fourth inning a ball games they do that now that they're always trying to bring us closer but. Coaches managers archivist tell us anything in in an important so it waste my time I. I don't care for that I'm Chris hello Tony Gwynn junior. When and Chris and we got Padres baseball coming up a little while we've talked basketball. We did a whole thing and gambling in if you didn't hear the big ruling came down today and it. Gambling basically is going to be legal everywhere and it's just a matter what states one of adopted. And now what the ramifications of that are going to be the Padres have called up. Friend Gil Reyes. The team actually Jesse was a wanna cannabis but. He doesn't just lead the minor leagues in home runs he leads everything everything in home runs he's got fourteen nobody in the big leagues even has fourteen new great. Areas that's him he's coming up and Carlos is why he was sent down Reyes we've batting sixth tonight in the lineup against the Colorado Rockies but. With two victories. Tony over the St. Louis Cardinals this weekend. The Padres have moved within one game. Of escaping the seller. In the NL west island Diana looked it's a small step but hey if the team did their behind is that Dodgers and I think that's really something if I noticed said TU and anyone it's gray beard anyone out there. On May fifteenth. The Padres will be one game back of the Dodgers in the standings. You would've said. I take that. Know what I would say without the Dodgers must be all. Yeah they're injured Brett did very well you want to just said the the Dodgers must are going to be terrible right. Well they are and their sixteen and 26 they just got swept four games by Cincinnati. And they are off to their worst start. Get this people only give you little time to enjoy it. The Dodgers are off to their worst start since they moved to Los Angeles in 1958. Give it up for the Dodgers folks giving up 460. Years. Since the Dodgers have been this bad or mean listen when so we gotta we gotta at least enjoy that. They've got a week after their best pitcher injured. In Rich Hill seems to be battling. Different finger ailments. They're not hitting. I mean everybody and we should say everybody except for grind doll and Mac can't seem not to be hitting and that. That team was the piano Avi or Chris Taylor last year had. A career or season last year I Barnes had a career season last year. There're a number guys Ballinger Belanger had a year rookie of the year and you know just swinging the bat well too but. That's the thing is when you have a season the way the Dodgers did last year what it what has happened is. You gotta have your main guys do their thing any got to have some role players step up and have careers seasons and that's exactly what happened with them in now and haven't really. Felt that with the Dodgers in a lot of ways does they've won this thing five years in a row with a lot of different classic characters I mean it did doesn't seem to matter. What stage in what would ever there lacking they've gone out and bought. Or they've been able to bring it up from the minor leagues for five straight years this year doesn't look like it's working and the thing that I think has to be concerning. He is. And bella and I'm gonna blame it on Ballinger big he's the guy that's been involved in a couple of these things the one time he didn't. Run out the ball in San Francisco. And then this incident Saturday night. To mean whatever and you tell it telling what happened on this because I was I don't remember hearing about it but you did. To me if you're not. Is on the same page with your manager there's something off kilt. I agree 'cause it in in the years. Willy slash or Davis. They its first year. Our second year arms are. You didn't have any of these type incidents happen in the two years that he was the year prior to to deceive nominee what's Ballinger thickened samurai I don't know 30. There bottom of the inning bottom of this what was that seventh. I said bottom and bottom of the ninth that bottom of the ninth and they're down to your fund is down two runs and. It's a 30 count he gets it takes I and he he tries to bunt ends up biting into the first out of the inning. And Dave Roberts is like after the game what that what's he do it in the seeking Dave gave him some pretty sit for a young guy to come in and take responsibility. He hit it use it in just move on you received when he respected that. But I did today. This is an ongoing. Issue is now the though when he got pulled out of the game for the black apostle double that. Dave Roberts mentioned in the interview that this isn't the first one time this and this is something we had to remind him of numerous times and yeah you you've gotta tread lightly as a player when you start saying in. Are you start. Having actions that make it seem like you know more. Senior manager debt in this this and this is this is probably the manager that you every player wants to play for because. He's gonna tell you the truth which is something that players who long for right they want to be told where they stand and be able to work from there. Is he toast to true he super positive I mean he makes. He's makes everything into a a positive light he just may if he made that gold thing into positive. Point exact that's your point exactly it that is not positive no end most marriages would wouldn't wouldn't care if you came I mean I guess publicly are privately they might say OK it's cool an air you out in but in private but publicly the garden be like. You know hey. He made a mistake it's all to remove a non. That's that's the kind of marriage you want he's not trying to scare you out that. Bet I hope we aired amount behind me you know I'm a hundred doors because a 30 count and your you need to get on base to bring the tying run up. You have to take that pitch and try to get a walk I mean that's baseball 10 want this and not know I didn't it and it lays down a bunt and he's how. They got they have a lot of problems in in right now you know looks like golden this. Justin Turner because he's in now the whole time in his team has not played to the standard that the use of same thing last year when he was out. He got hurt they struggle they lost eleven road and came back and all of a sudden. While lock. And so on his post come back this week yet hit it men and women Forsythe they're both so both both comics that are they're gonna get healthier but. They still got some submissions I mean like that production at their missive from Christa that they got last year is still there. Yeah. Well I'm and you know Padre fans I know you're focused on a Padres and that's where you should have your focus Buick. Don't ignore what's happening up the freeway because. This is as bad as the Dodgers have been in your lifetime probably. So enjoy it while you can. Do you have a feeling a sense that they're gonna give back in it the dodger I mean they're what it's only may I know that so I'd like to talk about Cleveland being down after game one. You don't want to overreact but then it really doesn't look like they're ever gonna get back in. It this year and as it I felt the same way about the cubs last year and all of a sudden they turned in on and they played really good baseball on a second half saw. I'm I'm I'm that dumb enough to count these guys completely out they want five straight for ran out loud so. And they still have pretty much the same exact roster and we can assume that they're gonna add a piece or two at at the deadline so. No I'm not willing to count them out but. They certainly. Have got some issues going on there are no doubt I wish we could count on that side about does bends over that he had leasing historic. I think I caught a little piece of this but I thought it was kind of funny and then I haven't thought on top of that OK okay so. But at least there as as of 2015. Right you had to have 51%. Of your shoe. A pass to be the team color now clearly. The team colors of change because. If you can watch the games now. Nobody is I mean you got great shoes you get Dwight shoes and I'm not only at one time it was just Oakland a.s that were cleared to Wear white shoes so. Maybe it is that everybody is now. But it certainly does indicates but anyway. Bins overs. He has he eased I guess you would call him an old school player at this point because he's been around a long time now and he has elected to Wear all black shoes which is. Mandated for the most part crossed league most teams team carpeting 1% was black you had to Wear black she let. The girls who blew the cubs have always been blue right so he has taken it back to. The sand lot days and is in his in his PF flyers. He's wearing these black. I think their new balances with with a with a dull old school. Tongue that kind of rolls over. The kind of rolls over the top. GAAP and he's been warned that if he continues aware that you he will be fine I I know this to be true because I've got on these letters before. I I had a pair agree. And I think it was rated swoosh when I play with the Dodgers. And I got one of these like that they'd like it exceeds that they take a picture of you had pictured a slight Minnesota guys pack pack just. Prudently but the funny part was it was a black and white so I was like I don't know of those shoes are actually great but it sounds like DMV thing where they used to be able to take a picture of going through right like rag right so it's the same thing to take a picture of you to say if you could if you Wear these shoes beginning her cot. You we find the thousand dollars of the thousand dollars that's where to hit your part is Bo is great are just like you know that mr. Jesse gag orders back quote Jesse. Tony you're leaving out part of a letter ansari typically what part Lara missed. That the part that Major League Baseball says hey this is been collectively bargained thing between the players association in the league yes so duke players out of some responsibility here it's a ridiculously stupid rule Allstate that do it it is agreed to it's always been collecting our bets aims language was in the letter I got it has been collective bargaining but. My point is. They blame the players is those are not policing this all the time because just I know you watch games as much as I do you guys are not wearing team colors she was on time I can jet. They base it. April they are letting it slide and now they're setting up a worn out cracking down. Right and they're saying hey we hope you had your fought in April because everybody knows. April is the fun month program and and and now we're gonna start cracking down citing the letters of the warnings that say you had your fun. It's over and I gotta get back to the rules so you and your your shoes have to coincide with the uniform 51% at this team has a collar. That's rigged so it's Sosa and the Padres his dark blue right knee that's like the color. That that is chosen nor has been chosen for them I don't know which and so 51% Asia has to be there. And so I guess 49% can be lime green to be whatever you wanted to do as long as the do you get 51% blue can somebody and I like I'd like to know that the tool they use to measure that a corporate support comes out and measures oh god oh god this is it to the experts let's get the foot married Allison. Can somebody asks other cardinals over the weekend can somebody please explain how Marcelo Zune is allowed to Wear line greens leave. With that assessment is I mean you talk about something looks terrible. Outing against his uniform. And that's funny said that that the tigers is now navy blue because in 2010 it was black so at least are making changes to actually met my deep black I might be focused so I'm so I. I doubt I chronic I'm not at their black you're right I've I've seen I've seen as a means is that you know enemy be wiling to anybody in here. Candy Jones is on where you that's on the that's on the list are. I really don't is coming on the drivers are getting rid of to grow I just I was less accidentally. Not trying to turn I'm changing directions of the Tony doesn't show what I'm doing my bit fatigued and keep him safe Randy. Yes fair welcome to the party. Chris hello Tony Gwynn junior and of course Jesse Adler part of the program today so. I'd I'd never have a conversation about that model and way too much right or too much you have any of these rules when you play. They were black or white and make him get over it you know. That's it we got to my step back and right now there is though Randi we miss you or stereo used to Wear this stir up something guys don't even have to Wear those any right. You have to admit it was noted regular guys that weren't. Either go to knock out. Yeah I have been guys have been knocking down senior all gay log magazine and I. Let's with a five point five bullets on. I think it ought almost to number those I cracked via the go. Callers. Randy. Let's talk a little baseball. Just for fun I thought maybe we we get into played Richard who seems to be. At least this last two outings has been kind of back on the beam what have you seen from him. That has allowed him to be as effective as he's been. His last start against Washington and of course yesterday against Saint Louis. And what is our paper or your show floor they said it's no consistency I was okay. That's what it inconsistency. You know their currencies from gambling we've talked about it Tony that you know keep in the outer third unit searched me at that middle server plate. You know any Kimberly be effective it also vote gravel or writes somebody turtle boy you get out of an inning. In that habit and I think he's doing a much better job would have a better reachable but also toward the breaking ball of the border and at that that's what reflect what it seem all world. You know he needed barely ever derby winner here if he were to be doing a good job that. And I think it's great mortgage departure but that's why in punch out yesterday. Randi let me ask you about some of the rest of pitching staff met Lara came out the other day and really struggle air apps aren't met our air attack. An extramarital our host in the morning show and and that is still the mornings yeah I used to. There. He struggled mightily with the seem like is command and. You know I look around the league and you look at most starting rotation as you see a lot of velocity. Add add that the either in that throughout the throughout the entire rotation and and we look at our pods. We don't have that as much do you see that as a problem and I know you weren't so hard thrower but you look around the league that seems to be with. Most teams are doing and some of the teams that are having success are doing is is is that a problem for parts. If Monica area probably don't want to get your your. It is not our growers and oddity you know you docket. That your target 997. Year nanny by about why fastballs. You know it's Internet in it now we that we don't come upon all come out power Ian and I agree. You know but I think a lot of times these guys sacrifice location Tony because the Internet Epoch. It in the next several problem I mean I've that the control on him pictured in my day. You know that you gotta they would yourself like I should rot on a day when you watch him mussina guided. Data within himself there'll quality pitches don't they're not that need to read quarter mile an hour in a real goods it is going to be more effective in that scenario. I Nikola these guys in babies just finished hybrid and realized. You know that that location is so why idol it if it cost a couple of hours so be it but you know keep an army out of charitably be inconsistent. You know would leave the broader credit brought inside events which he'd get credit identity but it is playing with them no plate. He herb of bird I don't hear it or 96 you know it generally dirt kicked up but that it meant that it got it all see what they have to do it. These guys get out their debt they might peak order there on that did you try to lower probably fall in their sacrifice their their control and they do it. Yeah I mean anybody can can hear it seems like in the big leagues ID five it's not plays he wanted to be especially today. Are they let me ask you about Joey that Casey what what's impressed you so much about him so far because it really really nice start his career. I had competitive edge that he's gotten me and he understands the whole idea of us better and backwards you know had a great leaders here. Is secondary pages eat very competent. It's so we've seen they're already doing one U changeup. You know worker Mikey likes to call her what are they called the pick you up or down in the strike that occurred at Earl Earl played. He cardinal located. And that's that's really cute they insult directive it and I get failure earlier picked him down a different beat. It out wanna speak up and try to get a good chaser you know you change that I eagle on the baseball. I think it Corey does what could I'd double faulted on revenue of schlock that a lot of other pitchers. In fact Annika twice Zoltek to try to take that picture. Lou Casey faces the Rockies tonight Randy for the third time the same is true for the other pitcher tonight Tyler Anderson of a Colorado the intact two of them have matched up against each other. Three this'll be the third time. It used to pitch against teams in your division I don't know six or seven times this season probably. Isn't is it incumbent on Joey loo KC NN and may be the same for Tyler Anderson. To make sure that they stay with their strengths tonight rather than try to fool the other team by going away from their strengths. Well and he a year pregame planet every every hitter I we always did you know are you wanna teach these guys that your third round. Yeah announcement it's not rocket science but yeah it back to your mind how you get used to that up we woody and you know well it. You know and and that which got a goal and what it would end game. Either one of these guys it is what you have to do that the money while Major League hitter to beat keep making mistakes. You know they're they're going to be too bad and they're you know what you need planners who but it you'd be a period in good spots and locate your pitches. You know hitters have weaknesses. Are their jobs a pitcher Joba is he's to attack those weaknesses that you got it sent a mop. In that meant but it's easier to do it in he's got power to audit you know that there's no doubt in my mind that it you get what you gonna talk about mobile location you can't miss. You know three or four times and think you're gonna get away what they used warm apple would quit it's based. This is does nice courses of isn't pitching when it I think you can only speak to on this and I've had teammates have talked about in the past. We see Tyson Ross scumbag this year and have so much success early on. And his velocity is down but he's at at this cover you start to throw it more often. How has he been able. To keep the sharpness of his slider. While mixing in this cover 'cause kind of similar pitches thrown similar ways but there's differences to how was he able to keep their sharpest of the slider. But I gave that slider gonna come out and figured if a little bit more. Than it. You know these pictures we believe we know what that scene is on that. On that fingertip that slider inept front but the year long moment seemed you know in with their front side. It would that cutter you you really is now ripping off that won that one finger on the ones seem that. Is both fingers you know on the on the fingertips to back cutters is completely different it's a different deal. So you know and you know you're right about the cutter and he's only been expected that like your city that an over Ehrlich. And again location of that community here it is so much better in all it does compliment that slider. And we've seen so many times this year when he's pitched. Are dating or were complicating pitching into 118 I mean all this talk about guys not you know seeing a hitter the third time through the batting order. About you know specialized bullpen that kind of thing there are we making this more difficult the needs of. Aggie yes commitment and it pictures and so that kind of make it maybe it'll. You know you know that the worst in remembered I was gonna put the radar screen a picture of the pitcher concede it yet I don't man. Renewable ebitda look up there aren't many. Events the dumbest thing you can do in the world guys. You know if you in the my problem is the it day in and day out yet it's unconscionable and they only if we can hurt. In intimidated yellow light vehicle would argue candid you know launch again. And that sort of goes down to that I think a lot of times you ardor of eighteen is being launched in in this in his pursuit of of velocity. It on it and I just think sooner or later going to be a transition you're gonna see it and then I'll call general what you're in the next few years. Almost you're gonna they're going to be a couple of rainy Jonas sneak in here in the rotation so where they're gonna understand you know how effective it could be. You know I don't I don't give anything nice to pick that they effort Ayatollah nannies have been miles out. Probably Gil de you can feel aren't going to be that kind of average estimate. Argued it made you're going to be another brought its way and I mean this. And I really believe that it in the united EB that's going to be one of the formulas it's gonna come and you see that makes. Starting picking may be a little bit is now all our all our. Unity it is the one I and there are you know like knuckleball or the middle of budget passed ball or. You know it it it is going to be really really effective what they think by net right now. While I agree with that and I think that somebody's got to try it sooner rather than later I mean it just mix up everybody because I mean. Tony and Jesse were talking earlier about that velocity. Machine that they use now did to speed up everybody's bat in batting practice. There's nothing being done to work on hitting the ball the other way against the slow tossing left. Well it is Corretja right hander or lefthander beat unity in the audience is Michael. I had to figure out what's speed was I did a girl it's a major at B port all out there this thank you rock. And as a game that I am now state assembly do well guess what here placebo worked. You know and you add subtract the set things up but it was model by the ground ball like that at allied to do it. You don't have an amnesty and back too much. In an accredited maybe some hard that they Dick Cheney's time in. And Indians go back a little bit soccer that little game that they're Burmese I was gonna keep the ball down anyway so I needed printed news development front put. The National League ball like he role work that get their ground ball and you're gonna see a comeback and it sooner or later there's no doubt in my mind. I agree RJ it seems that it seems at once guys start to lose a little bit of velocity. They start to try to figure out how to pitch a little bit because I can no longer just throw the ball anywhere they want to. It says bring it. That's a great point negative or better Geisel said they did lose a few miles an hour. A lot sent Hitler at a Mitchell. You know it's an expert in his speed in it he did you'd open a bit different game and they can be which. They can be as effective as they were people or if they. Well I RJ we appreciate you come on showed they talked some fits in with us now our guys look forward to having on again. Enjoyed it you guys thank you are day. The obvious that the he's a thing I think that's usually how it works once guys start to lose velocity and they start getting pitches that they are not used to getting hit they start to focus in on. Exactly we're there's thrown the ball. When we come back we're gonna have our next segment of the Big Five F five today how about that guys Tony yeah part of the big. Is it hurt yeah. A caller guy and assault according would you have we got just the Adler here with a slop. Chris LO as usual this this is and this is 973 fans sending his new home for Padres baseball 973 the fan.
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